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#11 fasteddy

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Posted 05 February 2008 - 06:24 AM

Well today being Super Tuesday, I just want to urge everyone to vote for the candidate of their choice. In one of our talks, Simon told me that he cannot wait for his citizenship so he can exercise his right to vote. We who already have that right should not squander it by sitting home. :typing: P.S. - I'm voting for McCain in the Republican Primary

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 05:48 PM

wasn't sure where to post this & figured this was just as good as any. . .

http://www.news.com....37-2862,00.html

Do any of our Down Under members know anything about this? I tend to be leary of any news service that doesn't know what a spell checker is :lol: (come on "pronography" :blink: :blink: REALLY)
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Posted 26 December 2008 - 08:54 PM

Have the powers that be in Australia gone NUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :angry:

http://tech.yahoo.co...internet_filter

I'm beginning to think that the continent must have come loose from it's anchor. This is the second strange, scary news story that I've come across from Australia.

Someone from down under or Oz explain this, please :blink:
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Posted 27 December 2008 - 08:08 PM

I agree Smoke, it is weird and disturbing. Not the behavior one would expect from a parliamentary democracy. And it does seem out of character for them.

from Wikipedia:

Australia is a federation, and responsibility for censorship is divided between the states and the federal government.

The Federal Parliament has the power under the Australian Constitution to make laws relating to communications and customs. Under the communications power the federal government can regulate the broadcast media (television and radio), online services (Internet), and under the customs power, the import/export of printed matter, audiovisual recordings and computer games. However, the production and sale of printed matter, audiovisual recordings and computer games solely within Australia lies with the states.

However, to reduce duplication and ensure some national consistency, the states, territories and federal government have agreed to establish a co-operative national classification scheme. Under this scheme, the Office of Film and Literature Classification (OFLC) (a federal body) classifies works. Federal law enforces these classifications with respect to customs, and online services. (Broadcast media are not under the purview of the OFLC, but rather a separate federal agency, ACMA.)

But since the federal Parliament has no power to criminalise the domestic sale or exhibition of printed matter within the States, the States and Territories then as part of the scheme pass their own laws criminalising such sale and exhibition. However, although they have delegated their censorship responsibility in general to the Commonwealth, they reserve the legal right in specific cases to either:

* reclassify works,
* prohibit works that the Classification Board has allowed, or
* allow works that the Classification Board has prohibited.


Video pornography

All the states actually go further than Commonwealth law requires and ban the sale of X18+ rated material, though possessing it and ordering it from elsewhere is quite legal. Therefore, all legal sale of X18+ rated material in Australia occurs by mail order from the Northern Territory and the Australian Capital Territory. In practice, sex shops commonly carry extensive stocks of X-rated films regardless of the law.

Restrictions on the “X18+” category of videos were tightened in 2000 including the restrictions on portrayal of fetishes, and of actors who appear to be minors, after failed attempts by the Howard government to ban the category entirely, and then replace it with a new “NVE”
[No idea what "NVE" stands for, not mentioned elsewhere in the article.] category which would have had similar restrictions.

The Internet

Australia’s laws on Internet censorship are, theoretically, amongst the most restrictive in the Western world. However, the restrictive nature of the laws has been combined with almost complete lack of interest in enforcement from the agencies responsible.

Some of the interesting exceptions include an attempt by then NSW Police Minister Michael Costa to shut down Melbourne Indymedia, a case in 2001 involving the US Secret Service that was eventually pleaded out and an attempt by the FBI using the Australian Federal Police to censor a Victorian they alleged was posting threats to the USA .

A collection of both federal and state laws apply, but the most important is the federal legislation which came into effect on January 1, 2000.

If a complaint is issued about material on the Internet, the ACMA is empowered to examine the material under the guidelines for film and video. If it is found that 1) the material would be classified R18+ or X18+, and the site does not have an adult verification system, or 2) the material would be refused classification:

* If the site is hosted in Australia, the ACMA is empowered to issue a “takedown notice” under which the material must be removed from the site.

* If the site is hosted outside Australia, the site is added to a list of banned sites.

This list of banned sites is then added to filtering software, which must be offered to all consumers by Internet Service Providers and the Australian Government.

On December 31, 2007 the Telecommunications Minister of the newly elected Labor government, Stephen Conroy, announced that Australia would introduce mandatory internet filtering. Once more the reason given is that mandatory filtering is required to "provide greater protection to children from online pornography and violent websites".

As of November 2008, the plan includes two blacklists, one of which will filter illegal content according to internet content laws as well as other "unwanted" content, and the other will also filter content unsuitable for children. Internet users will be able to opt out of the secondary blacklist for children, but will not be able to opt-out of the primary filter, sparking free speech concerns. No statement has been made about what content will be considered "illegal", or what Stephen Conroy means by "unwanted".

Lawyer internet statements concerning personal injury compensation are censored.
[Well, at least they have that going for them. :) ]

So, could Tyler's Room be banned down under? (There's a joke in there somewhere dieing to get out.) On an unrelated, but interesting side note, this is from the same article:

Australian broadcast television is considerably more relaxed about sex and coarse language than the American networks. In the 1990s Australian courts ruled that coarse language was no longer offensive due to it's common usage and TV networks began allowing the word "fuck" to go to air, particularly where it was seen as vital to the storyline of a movie. Later "cunt" was also broadcast but only when it was vital to the storyline however, some regional stations still choose to censor it. Since 2002, programs featuring frequent coarse language such as The Osbournes, and more recently, Gordon Ramsays various kitchen series which uses both the "F" and "C" words are broadcast uncensored with an M rating. Free TV Australia, which represents the commercial networks, says the number of complaints about offensive language in television programs has averaged less than one a week over the past decade however, this does not include email or telephone complaints as only written complaints are investigated.

Explicit sex scenes have also become more common. Channel nine's crime drama Underbelly has frequent coarse language and sex (including anal rape) with one episode featuring a "drug fuelled orgy with prostitutes accompanied by the Spiderbait song "Fucken Awesome". This top rating, and M rated, series has been cited in the media as an example on the issue of "how far we should go". In contrast, the full frontal nudity once common in popular TV shows such as Number 96 since the early 1970s have become less frequent due to the increasing censorship of gratuitous nudity.

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Posted 27 December 2008 - 08:21 PM


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Posted 27 December 2008 - 08:58 PM

Gay Activists Boycott Backers of Prop 8

IMHO: The boycotts are warranted and productive. Cursing patrons is crossing the line and uncivil.

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Posted 27 December 2008 - 09:13 PM

While I don't advocate hatred or violence, silence has really gotten us only one thing. Dead. When we were silent before Stonewall, we were invisible and institutionalized. When we were silent before Matthew Shepard, we were just fags that were ok to kill. When we were silent when AIDS started, it was God's punishment and OUR government did little to help. Every right we have gained has been a direct result of us demanding them, kicking and screaming - and I'm sorry, picket signs don't go very far.
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Posted 28 December 2008 - 12:29 AM

Consider a hetro couple walking into a restaurant that has a group of people picketing outside. They have signs and it is very clear why they are picketing this restaurant. As the couple moves past the small crowd, one of them makes eye contact with a picketer. The picketer nods hello as the couple moves by. The breeders go in, eat, and leave without provocation.

Now, consider that same couple walking past those picketers and when eye contact is made, the picketer begins to verbally assault them. And before it is over, the picketer is cursing at them.

Which scenario MAY cause the couple to think seriously and compassionately about the cause of the picketers? Which will leave the couple angry and looking for a reason to dislike the cause of the picket? How many friends/relatives will be told the story of the assault? How many people will that assault cause to give serious consideration to what prop. 8 is all about? It seems self-defeating to me.

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 02:21 AM

Well I learned from this young YouTuber's comments that Australia doesn't have a bill of rights. With his permission I post this video it covers 2 topics "filtering" and "Pro Ana" sites: While I don't agree that "Thinspirational" sites can do a whole lot of good - I don't think censorship and "filtering" is the way to go . . .
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Posted 31 December 2008 - 07:17 AM

Pop Ratzpoison has done it again as well... In his Christmas speech, he declared that avoiding and preventing gay and transgender behaviour is equally important for mankind than saving the rain forest. :blink: <_< He also added that mankind should listen to the "language of creation" to understand the role that was intended for man and woman. Any behavious that doesn't stroke with the heterosexual society is "a destruction of the work of God". Well, fuck you very much indeed. I'll happily keep on destroying His work then! :lol: :finger:
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